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This week in stories from redneck America, there's a big scandal at the University of Alabama because the all-white sororities refuse to let black girls in. Why am I not surprised. This is Alabama and I'm almost positive but too lazy to google that this is the same college from that scene in Forrest Gump where the army had to force integration and escort the first black girl into the school (and Forrest runs up and goes "Ma'am! you dropped your book!" in the most hilarious way). Now I know what Jay-Z meant when he said history don't repeat itself it rhymes, he was clearly talking about sorority discrimination.

This all came to light because an African American girl (who's remaining anonymous, respect) was rejected from every all-white sorority at Alabama despite being a "highly qualified candidate." (Naturally we question what it means to be "qualified" for a sorority but that's an issue for another time.) Supposedly she had very "high marks" during rush from the sorority girls themselves, but she was rejected because the alumni wouldn't let them give the black girl a bid and threatened to stop giving them money. (Everyone knows money is the most important thing.) 

I can vividly imagine these old white southern bitches who have nothing to care about except the sorority they were in decades ago, and nothing to look forward to except their KKK alumni meetings where they get to wear their special fancy dress and stupid sorority pin and relive the old plantation memories. Isn't it enough that we let black people come here AT ALL, now they want to join our sororities! There will be girls there in their bathingsuits! 

Of course the university wants to claim absolutely no involvement or endorsement of these policies. But if the administration actually cared about discrimination, they probably should've done something about it before it became national news. Would they have done anything if it didn't become national news? Considering it's literally their job, they're arguably way more at fault than the sorority girls themselves who say they would've let the black girl in if not under pressure from their batshit alumni.

But the racist fun doesn't end there! The school-sanctioned student government is known to have a secret society called The Machine, which is made up of members of the all-white sororities and frats. There's an explanation in the New York Times (you know it?) about how this society has influenced city politics (I use the word city loosely) for like 100 years, but that was less interesting to me than the story of how these sororities offered limo rides, free drinks, and sorority "points" to girls in exchange for voting for some alumni in a school board election. Talk about democracy! I'd write in my dog for a free drink.

I mean, this college just stopped throwing Confederate themed parties in 2010, so even less than I can grasp what would possess someone to throw such a party, I can't grasp how the Greek system at the University of Alabama took longer than the Nazis to realize it is not chic to keep reminding everyone of the fucked up shit you did to minorities. 

115 Comments TALK SHIT!
  1. kelsey says:

    I can’t stop laughing. Not at the situation, but at its absurdity, and the betches classy and integrated opinion on it. love love love

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  2. wow says:

    First the Miss America scandal and now this, I bet you that betch was a real-life Dionne Warwick

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  3. Ew says:

    Betches, this isn’t even the first time it’s happened there. The last time any of their sororities let a black girl pledge was 2003. Absolute disgusting. Racist Tide!

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  4. Your Name says:

    i can’t even. what the fuck is wrong with alabama hahahaha like its laughable because its so fucking retarded. i can’t. like what???

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  5. Your Name says:

    The girl should’ve gone to Auburn instead….

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    • duh says:

      war eagle

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    • seriously? says:

      like the article said, it’s the alumni problem not the students. those women control the girls, and if anyone’s responsible it’s them. and just to inform you, auburn is ranked one of the most conservative colleges in the nation. i would bet their alums would be pulling the same shit. way to go with your facts.

      and as for betches love this site, this girl is standing up against those women like MANY girls in sororities. and just because a few sororities out of 20 did it, doesn’t make it any better, but doesn’t make the whole university “redneck america.” it’s a generational error, and i guarantee there are racists all over this country, including the north.

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      • but actually says:

        Auburn may be conservative, but my best friend is black and was in a white sorority back in ‘99.

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  6. DumbassRedneckfromBama says:

    You realize that the only reason the whistle was blown on this was because us “redneck Americans” stood up and said “No, this isn’t ok, it has to stop.”  We are changing the system and standing up to the racist generation that preceded us and are controlling our community. How about instead of talking shit, you support us in what we’re trying to do. We are trying to end segregation here. Come on.

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    • GODAWGS says:

      If you were trying to end it - you would’ve let the girl into your sorority. End of story

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      • Fucking duh says:

        True that. Defying the alumni would have been actual courage.

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      • Teneshia says:

        What do you think would happen if a white individual went through rush in an attempt to join one of the several all black Greek organizations on campus… Wonder if that would make national news…

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        • EXACTLY says:

          true that.

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        • umm.. says:

          white girls join black sororities ALL THE TIME. I know quite a few. they are HISTORICALLY black, not ALL black.

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      • good lord says:

        There’s a ton of shit going on here that nobody knows about so everyone shut the fuck up. I am southern and love the old ways,but this doesn’t really exist down here, that’s why these things are such a big deal is because they DON’T HAPPEN anymore, at least very rarely, since this case exists. Don’t give those pretentious yankees and west coast idiots the damn chance to do a rant on how unenlightened and “racist” we are. Fuck you all, thanks. Oh by the way, the south was here first. And betches, don’t go off about how southern sororities are fuck ups, you fucking worship us and you adore Greek Life as a whole, so you’re fucking welcome.

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        • lol says:

          Such a classy southern belle. Do you kiss your mother with that mouth?

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        • wait... says:

          the South was here first…..? Wow I didn’t realize Plymouth Rock was in Texas!

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          • good try tho says:

            I in no way condone the girl’s post above, but if we’re being historically accurate Virginia was the first colony to be founded in America.

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            • duh says:

              1607 bitches

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            • Jerry says:

              Incorrect…  If you are talking about Jamestown, Virginia - No, they were the third European colony.  The first European colony was St. Augustine, Florida, which was settled by the Spanish (BTW, another minority in this country).  This colony is the oldest continuously inhabited European established settlement in the United States.

              Second, was the Ronoake Colony (First English), but that ended in disaster and a mystery (Where did they go?).  When on the Outer Banks of North Carolina, the old quote, “If you need directions, don’t ask the locals - they have been lost for centuries.”

              Jamestown was third and their colony failed - Starvation, Disease and a War (with some of the nearby Indians tribes they started) almost wiped them out (only 60 of the orginal 500 survived).  They were saved by the first settlers in America (still, another minority in America).  In 1610, Hampton, Virginia is oldest continuously occupied English settlement in the United States.

              As for the first settlers,

              In 650, the Cahokia Indians setteled in Illinois (near St. Louis, MO).  In 1000 the Pueblo settled in New Mexico, to this day it is the oldest continuously occupied communities in the America.  Today this community is called Sky City.  In 1100, the Oraibi Tribe settled in Arizona; today this is the Hopi Reservation.  And finally, Childersburg, Alabama (Go Red Tide) is considered the oldest City in the United States, which was settled by the Abihka (commonly known as Muskogee or Creek Indians - another minority).

              And finally, and BTW, I am a White Southern Gentleman from Virginia…

               

               

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        • Your Name says:

          You’re a HUGE part of the problem if you think that “this doesn’t really exist” in the south. It exists everywhere. How about you stop denying and defending it? Even if it happens “very rarely” (which, by the way, is untrue) it still happens. We live in the 21st fucking century and it’s time to move on from this kind of nonsense.

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        • PlymouthRock says:

          hahahahaha “the south was here first.”  How did you even get into college?

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          • Your Name says:

            Actually she’s right the first AMERICAN colony (aka British colony at the time of its founding in 1607) was Jamestown which is in Virginia which was one of the confederate or southern states in the Civil War. Therefore the south was here first.
            Ps I’m in high school and I know this yet somehow you don’t…  How did YOU get into college?

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            • Stop trying says:

              Oh please, you think for a second that anyone would stand for an all white Greek system at any northern/eastern/western university? It IS the South’s main issue, and although I don’t argue with the fact that there are racists present everywhere, the very fact that this story, including the background, made national, not regional, news first completely refutes your argument. Take your hypocritical, hyper defensive “proper” southern rhetoric elsewhere.

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            • Jerry says:

              American colony - No..  aka British colony - No again.  The first was the Ronoke Colony on the Outer Banks of North Carolina.  Yes - they were the first British Colonies - BUT they were a major disaster.  If it weren’t for the Indians, they would have all perished.  We should thank those minorities.

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        • Your Name says:

          you love the old ways? lol yeah segregation and slavery and lynching, those really WERE the glory days

          like thanks but no thanks paula deen jr. you cant sit with us

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          • preach says:

            i’m dead. you’re amazing.

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    • Your Name says:

      yess!!! exactly!

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  7. Get over it. says:

    HA. Redneck America…PLEASE. Get over it. Ever heard of the words DOUBLE and STANDARD? Because that’s exactly what this is.

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  8. Your Name says:

    Killer article Betches.

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  9. Roll Tide says:

    Actually, SDT, Sigma Delta Tau, let in a black female in 2012. The last time a sorority lost funding or had major coverage because of it was 2003, the Gamma Phi class. Stop persecuting the school. I am a hispanic, no I don’t believe what is happening is right. However, administration (greek affairs) cannot get involved unless a students life is in danger. As well, there are worse things that happen in a greek life than this, you just never here about it. Secondly, we are trying to stop it ‘Get over it.’ Even greeks here hate the machine. It’s an awful, archaic, racist system that no one wants to be a part of. Also, how is this a double standard? We have all black sororities on campus, ever heard of a white girl in one of those? no. Ever hear of all black or black pride colleges? ever hear of a white one? how about you learn about double standards.

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    • SECisforhicks says:

      Uh, actually, your “all black” sororities on campus both welcome and contain members who are, you know, white. The Southeastern Conference: America’s best football, America’s most poorly-educated denizens.

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      • Your Name says:

        @SECisforhicks you’re just jealous because the SEC is a football powerhouse that pretty much owns every BCS National title and I’m assuming you’re a bitter student/fan from either PAC 12, Big 10, or ACC all of which have failed it their attempts to knock the SEC off it’s earned spot as THE #1 conference in the nation

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        • Southern rhetoric says:

          What the actual fuck is up with the comment above? I mean using the SEC football league as a defense against arguments pertaining to racism at UofA? The fact that students there think that a mention of a recreational activity such as football belongs in an argument about such a serious issue is ridiculously dense and offensive. As a black student at bama, thanks for proving everyone right in thinking that the University of Alabama students are just shallow, ignorant, uneducated hicks whose only goal is to save a dying antiquated, hypocritical classic “southern” lifestyle.

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    • You are... says:

      an idiot…My ivy had multicultural sororities which DO, in fact, allow individuals of any race to join (and some did).  Also btw Hilary Clinton is an honorary member.  Don’t act like you racist fucks were rushing to join black sororities.  This was an excellent article by the betches, if you don’t like it just go back to fucking your cousin or rocking lily pulitzer (gag) or whatever thing you were doing before this.

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    • Your Name says:

      Maybe they didn’t teach you how to read at your Alabama University. The article stated that sorority girls thought she was a well-qualified applicant of their sorority. However, it was alumni financial support that caused them to turn down the bid, because they threatened to pull it based on admitting a black student. How else did this get leaked other than “the greeks” hating “the machine?” [What are you? A Poli sci major?]

      It’s not off-putting when people turn down applicants, because they don’t fit in within their personality types—you wouldn’t put an ultra conservative bitch with a bunch of sluts; they just wouldn’t mix well socially. But, if she was fucking awesome, super hot, and had the same interests, it’s pretty unacceptable, especially when the girls presently in attendance WANTED her there.

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    • Glenn says:

      Wow, doing great - one black student since 2012.  They must be proud.  You must be proud of that accomplishment.
      You are incorrect, the school can do something about it.  They are violating that girls civil rights.  Remember the Civil Right Law of 1964 and Title IX of the Education Amendments of 1972 ).  The University of Alabama is a public institution; taking tax payers money - they have to follow the law.  What can the school do to correct this manner?  They can pull support; they can refuse campus access.  And in some cases, suspend students. 
      And they can turn it over to the State’s Attorney’s Office for criminal and civil prosecution.  What can they do - get off their asses and stop it.

      I truly believe, the sorority sisters don’t care about Black, White, Tan, Red, or Yellow - they care about Green…

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  10. wow says:

    do you pay people to write this stuff?

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  11. BitchAboutIt says:

    Point is, you can bitch about it (*cough* this whole article) or you can do something about it. You’re not gonna end racism and segregation by talking down to the people who ARE trying to change it. You are being petty, immature and allowing yourselves to be uninformed. Honestly I am really disappointed by this post. Thought the “betches” were better, or at least smarter, than this.

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  12. NoHate says:

    No hate on the Betches’ articles about things like “198. Nail Polish” or “Fucking Fridays: Meatballs were a bad choice” (which is definitely a fav), but I really love reading one’s like these about current affairs from this witty, betchy point of view. Say what you want about their highly opinionated views, I really wish they’d write more about things on national and world news to make reading about it (and caring about it) more endurable. Write on Betches.

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  13. Duh says:

    They still have the Confederate themed party every Spring- it’s called Old South.  Fucking duh.  And yes, they still dress up in Confederate costumes.  Classy.

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    • uhhh says:

      so many schools have Old South. nice try. talk to that fraternity not the whole damn school

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      • Educated betch says:

        So then don’t go to the party. Better yet, boycott with a group. Or protest. But not doing anything at all and accepting the system is called “passive racism.” It’s the same problem as trying to blame the alumni and not the sorority girls for refusing to let in a black member: as long as the sorority girls accept the alumni’s demands - which are actively racist - without complaint, they’re being passively racist. Any attempt to defend these girls is passively racist too.

        Sociology betch out.

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    • SouthernBetch says:

      Lol Kappa Alpha Order throws that, not the actual University. And it’s thrown at pretty much every KA chapter at southern schools.

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      • MIZZOUbetch says:

        even in the midwest - mizzou - KA throws old south.. it’s not offensive, it’s just tradition

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    • Doll says:

      Okay doll, here’s the thing:

      The Confederate States of America were fighting for state’s rights, not for using harsh labor only. The main issues were high taxes placed on certain items and goods from other countries, and no tax placed on products from up North. Basically the government said “You can’t buy this product for $30 from England, but you can buy this product from New England for $5, even though New England is desperately hoping to crush your economy.” Which is proper bullshit.
      And secondly, I hope you realize the Union wasn’t even for freeing the slaves. Hell they had their own, and when the North got rid of their black slaves and throwing them out into the white man’s world, did they help them? Hell no. They began using “wage slaves”, paying immigrants around possibly a nickel every couple of days and putting them into unsafe working conditions. And while they were getting paid (somewhat) were they accepted? No, doll. They were put down way worse than slaves ever were. Did you not learn that house slaves were “better” than poor whites in the South, and the poor whites had to move off of the road and out of the way if a black house slave were to come around them?
      Oh and another point, Abraham Lincoln, the North’s most esteemed historical figure, didn’t really care about the slaves. He wanted to ship them all back to Africa and Barbados, where their own people were capturing them and selling them to other countries. The only reason that hadn’t happened was because it wasn’t feasible.

      In case you might have been wondering, I’m in ninth grade, and although everyone in the south is an “ignorant hick”, I’m taking college classes. I’ll have finished my major in law and my minor in psychology by the time I’m 18.  How amusing is it that an “ignorant southern racist hick” has made the majority of all the arguments moot?

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  14. Canadianbetch says:

    Ignorance is bliss - America has all the social short comings. They haven’t joined 2013 yet.

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  15. Hm. says:

    So it’s okay to discriminate based on income and weight/other types of physical features, but not on skin color?
    The double standards in this country’s society are nauseating.

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      • Your Name says:

        hahaha seriously how has noone else jumped on this yet

        what the actual fuck?!?

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    • No way says:

      UM…weight is controllable and fat people, ugh

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  16. UA Student says:

    as a student involved in greek life, i would like to point out that there are also black sororities, which IF a preppy white girl had tried to join, would have been turned down at the door.  NO white girl would ever make it past walking up to a black sorority house before getting kicked out of their rush.  I am no racist, but the blacks are just as racist as the white racists.  It goes two ways, so talk about no change or still living the past, I feel judged when I walk by the black sororities.  ALSO more white girls than black girls were released from rush, what excuse do they have for not getting in to a sorority?  You can’t call racism for everything.

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    • Im speechless says:

      Oh my god I can’t tell if this post is sarcastic, I really hope that for the future generations of Americans that it is because if you’re being SERIOUS I pray to god you never spawn children for fear of them being even as close to dumb as you are. Oh wow poor little privileged white girl gets her feelings hurt for point two seconds walking past the black sororities. Are. You. Fucking. Serious. Do you understand by definition how DUMB YOU SOUND. I feel so bad for you it must really suck to be white at a racist college. It’s not like you and your ancestors have been treated as sub humans for decades though so how could I ever suspect such an ignorant south white princess to ever actually understand what discrimination is. There are so many things wrong with your comment (you really want to join a black sorority? I sincerely doubt it because oh wait. You’re racist pricks who think skin color defines people. And hey not defending discrimination but maybe black sororities feel pressure to keep to themselves because if they don’t it could be actually dangerous for them. Don’t want to upset those white folks again! You know what they can get away with *cough* murder, rape, outright racist harassment *cough*) next time you open your mouth maybe you should remember what a place of fucking WHITE PRIVILEGE you’re speaking from. Until then do us all a favor and shut the fuck up.

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      • La betch du monde says:

        ^this.  thank you @im speechless

        Dear God @UA Student.  Read a damn book.  Start with To Kill A Mockingbird, The Color Purple, The Bluest Eye, Huckleberry Finn.

        love,
        admittedly privileged white chick

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      • hellll yeahhh says:

        hahahah! Well said she still probably doesnt get it, but props to you!! smile

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      • Your Name says:

        @Im Speechless

        YES. Thank you.

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      • Your Name says:

        Let’s be honest here. Not a single white person gives a fuck about “white privilege” or even gives a single thought to it. So stop acting like you all care so much for a chance to sound like a better person than whoever the fuck you’re attacking in the comments.

        And as for the whole “black people’s ancestor’s went through so much” shit… yeah, that happened. It’s no longer happening. Shut the fuck up about it. It’s okay that white girls get turned away from black sororities because the black people’s ancestors were enslaved? Really? A white girl can’t feel judged walking by a group of another race because the other race’s ancestors had it harder? Explain to me, where the fuck is the logic in that. A white girl can’t know what it feels like to be judged? Are you fucking DENSE in the head? If a black girl said she felt judged walking past a white sorority, it would be a giant fucking ordeal and there’d be a debate about it… but white people aren’t allowed to feel or think certain things because of our skin tone? That’s literally moronic.

        Racism and judgement exist EVERYWHERE. Between almost every single race. It’s common knowledge that white girls tend to stick together for whatever the fuck reason, black girls, spanish girls.. that’s how it is. And you know what I noticed? The black and spanish girls are always the more outspoken ones, making fun of the white girls, if anyone is discriminating against anyone. I’ve never had a black girl walk past me and proceed with saying some racist shit about her, or what she likes. For the most basic example, the amount of “white girls be like” posts on instagram in comparison to “black girls be like” ones I’ve seen on there are crazy. God forbid a white girl puts something up making a joke towards black girls… oh, all hell would break loose and the bitch would be dubbed a racist. The other way around though? It’s funny. I’m white, and I laugh when black girls put things up like that… but I would never put one up about them for the aforementioned reasons. Not to mention, every white girl would hop on it to preach shit they don’t believe in so that they can look like a good person, oh so remorseful for something that happened in the fucking 1800s.

        Seriously, you’re all fucking retarded, blind, or in denial of what’s going on around you. That’s the way it is. Go fuck yourself, and for anyone on here talking about white privilege and how hard you all have it, I sincerely hope that you DO have it that hard, or will have it that hard. Because if you’re seriously that negative and blaming your problems in the world on “white privilege” and your skin color making you different, then you deserve it. Nobody else gives a fuck about you being black. The majority of people in this world see everyone no matter what color they are as an equal. We’re not in the same place as we were years ago, things have changed. Stop harping on it. Shut. The. Fuck. Up.

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        • Truth says:

          I was about to write the same thing up until the last paragraph…. little harsh.
          It really is so ridiculous how true this is and it is only getting worse.

          I hated applying to college and seeing scholarships for only african american girls or hispanic girls… why isn’t there a scholarship specifically for white/ caucasian girls?

          because there would be an uproar over it and white people would lose this pointless disgusting and culturally dividing argument.

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        • AD says:

          White privilege is a real thing lady. I’m a white girl, and I have been very fortunate in my life thus far and as uncomfortable as it can be to say white privilege exists, because well frankly it’s not like I got to choose what color my skin is, it is real. If you’re interested in learning more about it there are plenty of books out there, might I suggest an article called “Unpacking the invisible knapsack”,by Peggy McIntosh.

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      • Your Name says:

        I really hope you didn’t go to college because your inability to write a coherent sentence (for example, the 18 grammatical errors in your comment) is a dead giveaway that you shouldn’t have graduated high school.

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    • SECisforhicks says:

      Weird, since the black sororities at Alabama do happen to have white members. There’s that Tuscaloosa education serving you so fucking well.

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    • Natasha says:

      i expected there to be ignorant white racist chicks on here but holy shit not as bad as this. like this is disgraceful to the human race. Dont talk about feeling ‘judged’ and your definition of prejudice because you dont know what that is or what tht truly means. you should just keep your silly mouth closed.
      “I think whites are carefully taught not to recognize white privilege, as males are taught not to recognize male privilege. So I have begun in an untutored way to ask what it is like to have white privilege. I have come to see white privilege as an invisible package of unearned assets that I can count on cashing in each day, but about which I was “meant” to remain oblivious. White privilege is like an invisible weightless knapsack of special provisions, maps, passports, codebooks, visas, clothes, tools , and blank checks.”

      read this
      http://www.amptoons.com/blog/files/mcintosh.html

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    • Your Name says:

      Your argument has so many wholes in it. Of course more white girls were released from rush than black girls because more white girls went through rush to begin with. I also bet that there are no white girls in black sororities because none have tried to join. Let’s look at the whole picture here.

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      • Ha. says:

        So does your grammar. Many, many wholes.

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    • USC Student says:

      not sure how things are in the south, but in California probably every black sorority has at least one white girl in it…it’s all just about who wants to join & wants to make the effort of getting in. so actually no, it isn’t a double standard, just a stupid social situation you guys have going on down there

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    • SayWhat??? says:

      Clearly your quality redneck, mudslinging, white trash education is doing great things for your tiny, shrunken brain.  That a white person would dare bitch about reverse racism in ALABAMA just shows how fucked up your moral compass truly is.  You make me ashamed to be white.  You’re going to compare feeling ‘judged’ walking past the excluded minorities you and your racist, inbred kin shoved in a corner?  Are you serious????  In a state where being black affects everything from income to opportunities to education to healthcare?  WTf is wrong with you?  Oh, yeah, you’re just another worthless, spoiled white supremacist.  Thank God I’m not you.  Karma is going to come for you, hag, and you;re going to deserve everything that comes your way.

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    • I just can't says:

      Look up WHY the “black sororities” were founded in the first place. The so called “racism” you whine about isn’t shit to what actual minorities go through. Please get over yourself.

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    • Except says:

      Except for the fact that the sorority ADMITS the ONLY reason this girl didn’t get in was because she was black and that if she had been white she would have been given a bid.

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    • B says:

      Of course more white girls were released from rush. Close to two thousand white girls rush every year at SEC schools like Alabama. So lets say 1800 girls went through UA recruitment this year. Out of those 1800 probably 1798 were white and then the two black girls mentioned in the article. If you have 1798 white girls, obviously the majority of the say, 50 girls who were released, will be white.

      And I’m not attacking you, I posted below about how I think the alumnae of the sororities are just as much to blame as the students. (Although they should have stood up for what they knew was right.) But whatever, your “statistics” were way off.

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    • WTF says:

      There are so many things wrong with this comment that I literally don’t even know where to begin. But saying that more white girls were released from rush than black girls and using that as evidence for a lack of racism is just pointless because i GUARANTEE YOU there are more white students than black students at Alabama, just like there are at literally every other college in the country that isn’t a historically black college. The ratios aren’t the same. Your argument is invalid.

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    • Your Name says:

      Well DUH more white girls got kicked out of rush because more white girls than black girls rush. If you want to use numbers than use the percent of white girls of total
      # of white girls rushing kicked out compared to the percent of the total # of black girls rushing kicked out. So you’re little comparison that “more white girls than black girls got kicked out” is null and void due to an improper numbers comparison statistically speaking

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  17. Impressed says:

    Wow actually a good, funny, intelligent article.

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  18. Your Name says:

    Here’s some food for thought for ya: How about when an all black sorority lets a white girl in, the white sororities will let a black girl in.  It’s funny this article, as well as the news, fails to mention that there are not only “all black” sororities, but that they are actually allowed to advertise it publicly!  But then again who ever wants to hear about blacks being racist towards whites, right?! what a joke.

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    • Lololol says:

      Do you understand anything about why black sororities exist??!??! Your white privilege is astounding.

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    • Me says:

      Fuck. You. Sorry for being so vulgar, but I genuinely mean it. You are a perfect example of the naivety and ignorance bred into some (NOT all) white people in the South. I’m white, was born and raised in Georgia, and am no stranger to the racism that still permeates this region.
      The fact that you are comparing the exclusion of white girls from black sororities (which isn’t even a thing that happens…at all) makes it perfectly clear that you don’t understand the concept of white privilege, nor do you have any grasp of its enormity. This isn’t necessarily because you’re stupid, but you are just so cushioned/immersed in it that you genuinely don’t get it. It’s really quite sad actually. I was the same way for years. You’re probably going to dismiss this post as stupid and continue on living your life without fear of being unfairly profiled every day, constantly surrounded by whiteness in pop culture, and possibly encountering a black person who has a slightly negative attitude because he’s sick of putting up with your shit. And the cycle continues.

      sorry for the novel by the way…this shit gets me going

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    • YOU are the joke. says:

      The sororities and fraternities you are referring to in the NPHC were founded by black men and women. The only reason they are MOSTLY black to this day is because most white people are afraid to join (probably due to racial segregation at southern schools). In other areas of the United States it is much more common to see integration within these organizations. Also, they don’t exactly have rush. It is a much longer and harder process (pledging) which lasts for several weeks to a few months, depending on the school.  It’s VERY hard to be accepted into these organizations, no matter your skin color. They were HISTORICALLY FOUNDED and definitely not “all black”. I know plenty of men and women of ethnicities other than “white” that are a part of these groups. Check your facts next time.

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  19. lol says:

    Thank you for reminding the world that you go the University of Alabama. Joining a sorority is not about race. A preppy white girl probably wouldn’t even attempt to go through rush at a black sorority because most of her friends are also preppy white girls. This unidentified black girl is probably the only black girl in her friend group.  I highly doubt she would have even signed up for rush if she felt more comfortable in a black sorority. The same is true for a white girl with predominantly black friends. Its about finding where you fit in and where you can make friends. Although sometimes common interests fall along racial lines, that is not always the case.

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  20. Um... says:

    UA Student… “the blacks?!” wow.

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  21. B says:

    Disclaimer: I don’t go to Bama.

    The point of the article was NOT that Alabama sororities refused to bid black girls. The point was that they wanted to bid black girls but their alumnae talked them out of it. So the students at Alabama aren’t the racist ones - the alumni are. The one Alpha Gamma Delta who was interviewed even said something to the effect of “We really wanted her to pledge but our alumnae said that her recs weren’t good enough so we couldn’t give her a bid.” The article also said that one sorority allows alumnae to have a say in the new member voting process.

    Blatant racism is never cool (correct me if I’m wrong but I believe even Ole Miss sororities have given bids to black girls before) but I do think the students at Alabama are catching more flack than deserved. They wanted the black girls in their sorority - the alums did not, and twisted their arms into dropping them from rush. If anything, they should be banned from participating in the new member selection process ever again.

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  22. Black betches and white betches says:

    Awesome article, but I also have to agree somewhat with “UA” student.  I come from a multiracial family (white, black, biracial- basically like the poor man’s version of the Jolie-Pitts) so just to clear the air, I am not racist. I went to the Univ. of KY and we had a Mr. And Ms. Black UK and just a regular mr. and ms UK (from what I remember usually white people always won but I don’t feel like looking it up).  And we had your token black frats and black sororities.  I found this incredibly weird (the Mr.and Ms. Black UK thing especially) and I even discussed it with black girls in one of my African womens studies classes (some random elective idr what it was really supposed to be about to be honest). A couple of them said they liked the mr. and ms. Black UK thing because they know they would never win the regular one.  To which I boldly (stupidly) suggested they should just do away with it because it sounds like they are trying to separate themselves and I would hope that everyone at our school would be mature/not racist enough to vote based on color.  Sure you can’t change every redneck idiot’s beliefs, but change has to start somewhere, right? Thank The Lord at least one of the black girls backed me up and said she would rather win the regular ms. UK because it would be more meaningful.  Honestly though, looking back I can see why it is important to them and I can’t deny there are plenty of racist people in KY…. But I still think all black/ all white sororities/frats/homecoming kings/queens should just not be a thing anymore.  It’s 2013.

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    • Yawn says:

      You must be the Pax of your family.

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  23. UAGreek says:

    To be entirely honest, it’s not the sorority girls who dropped the black girls for being black. The alumnae didn’t just threaten to pull all financial support, the girls can still vote yes on a black girl if they want her. The alumnae were going behind the backs of the sororities and pulling the girls off of their invite lists and bid lists. You can stand up and defy the alumnae all you want, but when they select names to drop without permission from the current members, there’s not much you can do once it already happened.

    Also, most of the issue lies in the fact that if any New Row sorority tried to pledge a black girl, that sorority’s entire social calendar would be wiped clean. That’s what happened to Gamma Phi in 2003. The fraternities refused to swap with them. It’s going to take an established Old Row sorority to take a black pledge before the other sororities can follow suit, because fraternities wouldn’t dare drop those girls from their social events. These sororities have the largest local alumnae chapters who have insane amounts of influence on the chapters. We’re looking for change, but it’s not going to happen overnight, it’s a delicate process and movements are already underway for integration.

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    • Thank you says:

      .. for clarifying that.  The sorority girls were “standing up to their alumni,” but there was honestly nothing they could do since alumni has the final say in most things during recruitment.  To those of you saying how cowardly these girls acted, shame on you.  The whole reason this issue is finally getting national attention after 10 years is because of the BRAVERY of these women standing up, not cowardice.  If they would have just kept their mouths shut, none of this media attention would have happened and we would all be going about our lives like we have been for the last 10 years.  So you should be thanking them for their courage.  Their names are being dragged through the mud for standing up for what they believe.

      http://doctorgentry.blogspot.com/2013/09/sorority-recruitment-and-discrimination.html

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    • AU Greek says:

      You’re spot-on about what would happen.  I know, because it happened to my fraternity house
      at Auburn in 1984-85.

      Oh, yeah, and then the alumni shut our chapter down.  Go figure.

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  24. Andrew says:

    There is nothing wrong with white people enjoying the company of other white people. There’s a difference between preferences and prejudice. Black people have numerous options at UA. Why was attempting to fit in with a group to which they clearly didn’t belong necessary?

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    • wow says:

      the most ignorant post I have ever read on this site.

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    • Your Name says:

      WOW you racist fuck. People are people, doesn’t matter the color of their skin. If you only enjoy the company of other whites, you are not being preferential, just racist. “Fitting in” with a group has nothing to do with race.

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    • Andrew... says:

      Is Andrew a gay Betch?  Is Andrew now a girl name? Or does Andrew think he is a “pro”?  (I put that word in quotes because you can’t honestly tell me any self respecting guy actually reads this website—thus why I never read the “PROpinion” articles.)


      Perhaps the answer is that dear Andrew is just a douchey frat boy, trapped in a closet at an extremely racist and homophobic southern school…?  Poor Andrew. I hope you find yourself one day.

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  25. H says:

    It seems that most people are misinformed. Really well written article, however…

    Jealousy is a sickness, get well soon betches. But really the situation is heartbreaking, but this the real world and prejudices exist on both ends. Time to put on your big girl pants and for us all to grow up and accept that.

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  26. Shut Up says:

    I laugh at the fact that the majority of these comments were written based on the Betches version of this story. If you were actually educated, you would read the original article, released by the UA school newspaper, containing contributions by ACTUAL UA Greeks. And if you had any idea of what REAL Greek Life is you would understand that, regardless of the actions and outcome of this particular situation, segregated student organizations exist for a reason. It is so people with a similar culture, similar interests, and similar personalities can bond with each other. Jewish sororities were founded because of the fact that Jewish women were not allowed to join traditional Panhellenic organizations. Jewish, Asian, Hispanic, AND Black organizations were founded because of the fact these people were not allowed to join traditional Panhellenic and IFC organizations. It has EVERYTHING to do with culture and NOTHING to do with race. That is precisely what the Crimson White article the Betches refer to is trying to communicate. Were it not for the alumni manipulating the system, these sorority women who spoke out against ‘tradition’ would have enhanced the culture of Panhellenic organizations by beginning to desegregate. In fact they have started the process, because it is a process. Though it is considered by most to be one that should have begun long ago, give these girls, and the writers of the original Crimson White article, some credit for sparking change. That is exactly what they were trying to accomplish. Help them move forward by supporting them from here on out rather than berating them for the actions of those that came before them.

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  27. Your Name says:

    I’m sorry, but yall just dont know what its like to live in the South. Obviously you cannot judge an entire demographic based on the actions of a portion of them, but here the majority of blacks are even more unwilling to integrate or associate with others. NOT saying whites because I am not full white. Here, the majority of blacks have a sense of entitlement and claim “suppression” even though they were never directly affected. They are the opposite of suppressed today; there are literally scholarships designated for African-Americans only, and require lower test scores to get into school. Look it up. God forbid being in class and expressing an opinion about Obama, healthcare, food stamps- ANYTHING because you will immediately be deemed racist whether its positive or negative, and have a target on your back. Don’t judge before you have lived down here. It is becoming quite the opposite, actually. People walk on eggshells to not offend anyone because it is so easy to do. This is not a “scandal”, its the way it is and it is slowly but surely CHANGING. I go to another SEC school, and as of 2010 several of the newer sororities gave black girls bids, and every year that number grows. How many of the black fraternities do? None. So get off all yalls high “progressive” horses until you know what youre talking about. The media has done everything they can in the past few years to tear America apart, and yall are sheep feeding right into it.

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    • Actually... says:

      I grew up in Southern Louisiana. I went to a private school with black and white people. One of the best friends I ever made, as a white woman, was a black girl during Katrina-mester. Turns out we were two hot rich girls who had an adoration for hot hairstyles, makeup, fashion, and talking shit about the same people, so we got along really well. Sounds like it was pretty similar in the case of this sorority, but the old biddies kept it from happening by threatening to pull funds.

      This entire website is about having entitlement; that’s the entire parody of our lifestyle choices. Yeah, we don’t need Obama Care or food stamps, because we have trust funds or millions of opportunities for the choice jobs before us as we came from a fantastic situation with regards to our socioeconomic background. Our parents made it that way intentionally. We’re going to do the same for our offspring. Fucking duh.

      And, “suppression,” “suppressed?” So ig’nant. Try oppression or oppressed. And, it’s directly “effected,” not “affected” Did you pass your synonyms test in third grade? No wonder you could only go to state school. People probably hate what you say in class, because you literally say the wrong words for your undercover racism. That’s coming from a Republican-Libertarian, not someone who is politically progressive.

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      • another girl who "only goes to a state school" says:

        Nope… suppressed and affected are definitely the right words….. miss private school.
        If she wanted to use effect, she would have worded it “the effect of suppression on blacks”. Affected and effect definitely aren’t synonyms, because as you so intelligently pointed out, they’re not fucking interchangeable.
        ..........and do you know what oppression means? Clearly not. Anyways, its a heck of a lot worse than “suppression”. Also, sounds like you and your friend had a solid foundation for your friendship. More power to ya. Sit the eff down, you high and mighty (wrong) grammar police Nazi.

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      • get off yo high horse says:

        here is an example:

        “the situation has a direct effect”
        “the situation directly affected”

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    • Your Name says:

      you’re a fucking idiot like i wish i had the energy to point out everything that is so, so terribly wrong about what you’ve written here but realistically i won’t be able to change your opinion anyways…ignorance is bliss right? better to keep up your white persecution complex so you can whine about “reverse racism” than to face up to the terrible systematic racism still entrenched in this country that keeps minorities down

      go fuck yourself

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  28. Ashamed to be from the South says:

    This story has bothered me so much today, can’t stop thinking about it.. I am so “in awe” that even in 2013, with a BLACK PRESIDENT leading our country, some young women (key word: young) are still living in a 1950s deep south, racist era in which they judge other young women by their skin color. Our generation must be the change. We cannot perpetuate archaic beliefs/judgements centered upon hatred because people are simply different than us. We have come SO FAR in 50 years; so many wonderful things have happened to strengthen equality and justice in this country, from accepting one’s religion, to their sexual orientation, and especially their race. After growing up in a white affluent suburb in Georgia and being a new york Jew,  I certainly look back now and acknowledge that I was different compared to the Baptist majority in terms of my moral code and personality… which is why I never truly fit in, but I never complained or judged. Now that I am in college and far away from the bubble I was trapped in, I so much appreciate the diversity I am immersed in every day on campus. Life wouldnt be as colorful if we we all the same. And being part of a sorority myself, I cannot imagine my chapter without the crazy/spunky/amazing cuban and black sisters. It pains me to read this article and know exactly what is going on because I lived it, I saw it, and I hated it. And it is unfortunately a disgusting reality that will never change until these southern bigots embrace the fact our country is a melting pot, no longer the confederacy they constantly romanticize about. There are many great things about the south, but re-occurring issues like this leave a sour taste in my mouth and make me wonder where our generation is headed. The reason we educate ourselves and learn about the past is so that history shall never repeat itself. The University of Alabama, then, must not be educating their students in the correct way….and deserves to be scrutinized.

    Because what would UA’s #1 ranked football team, which they greatly pride themselves on, be without its BLACK players?

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    • Your Name says:

      This has nothing to do with the education of students. Don’t comment on something you obviously know nothing about. Comment on the “racist bigots” of the south and the Greeks at Alabama all you want, but don’t add to your diatribe the education that UA provides. I am an Alabama graduate and I can tell you I gained an excellent education, had an amazing time, and became who I am today in Tuscaloosa. I am also happy to say I am not a racist, and not everyone that goes to Alabama, or is from the south is a bigot as you make it sound.

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  29. alabama says:

    just because two black girls got rejected from sorority doesn’t make it racist. a lot of people get rejected. yall just blowing this up and making it seem a lot worse then it is. hell i know a couple fat kids that got rejected from fraternities lets start writing articles about how alabama is against fat people. yall fucking retarted. start writing articles about the naval shooting or some actual fucking news. its more interesting that you actually think you can call yourself a journalist.

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  30. Thisarticleisshit says:

    I’d like to point out that U of A isn’t the only school to have segregated sororities and fraternities. Take a look around the other SEC schools, I guaran-damn-tee you won’t find an African American girl in the sororities at Florida, Ole Miss, or Tennessee. The fact that Alabama is the only one getting the finger pointed at them is ridiculous. Before people go trashing my alma mater as racist, maybe they should take a look around and evaluate themselves as well as other SEC schools with large Greek affiliations. I say all of this not defending the Greek system at Alabama because I believe things need to change, I am just pointing out the fact that Alabama isn’t the only University at fault.

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  31. Thank you. says:

    I freaking love this article. Especially with everything going on with the Miss America thing…Oh and of course the entitled and “not so obvious” U of Alabama students posting the most outrageous comments on here. Oh and btw, saying things like “pretentious yankees and west coast idiots,” just makes you seem that much more obnoxious.

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  32. Grow up y'all says:

    Who cares? y’all don’t have a clue about the deeply rooted problem in the south; comparatively to any other cyclical problem in the usa; such as welfare, poverty, education, politics in washington. All of these issues are much deeper and pretty much unsolvable as we have seen. Everyone just live life, help people when you should, be cordial and respectful, and pay it forward. After that maybe, just maybe, the world we live in will evolve into somewhat of a better place. Peace and love is a theory, it will NEVER happen because of the fact that everyone does not act rationally. Therefore everyone will NEVER see eye to eye on everything. It is the world we live in.

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  33. woah says:

    holy sensitive people in these comments

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  34. fuck the south says:

    as a TAB applying to colleges the most southern college i visited was UVA and i felt highly racially interrogated there. when my family went to go eat lunch this old white woman was glaring us down while we were outside walking into the restaurant. during the tour an indian woman was hardly audible and on the phone and this white guy went “excuse me? no.” and condescendingly shushed her like she was 5. it was disgusting. racism is a fucking reality, and UVA is only 2 hours away from DC so i cant even fathom what alabama is like. the only southern school im considering is emory cause its like all tri state JABs who are my fucking people.
    this comes to me as no surprise at all and i fucking love how the betches are satirically commenting on political issues.

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  35. Historian says:

    “J Z said.” Boy you are one dum betch. That quote would be correctly attributable to Mark Twain/ Samuel Clemens.

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  36. HAHA says:

    This country is way too sensitive. “Old South” parties? It’s their heritage… Some southern families have been around since “old south” and that is just their past. If families who immigrated can celebrate their old traditions and customs from their countries, why can’t the south celebrate what they used to be?

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  37. everyone fucking relax says:

    everyone INCLUDING the betch who wrote this article needs to fucking relax.  Sorry that a black girl got dropped, a lot of great girls got dropped. shit happens.  thats what happens when 2000 girls go through rush.  nobody except for the sorority members at alabama know the full story, so stop trying to write opinionated articles on this stupid, bitch website.  the only reason this had been made such a big deal is because the girls family has power.  if sororities didnt want her, it was not necessarily because of her skin color, that is just the way recruitment works, and they only debated it and made it a big deal because everything that anyone fucking does in alabama can be turned completely around and people pull the race card over anything.  everyone who isnt directly involved in this siutation can shut the fuck up

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    • totally agree says:

      I completely agree.  Considering there were only two black girls that even went through rush. And considering that national news is doing stories on BEING IN A SORORITY.  can we move on from this bullshit please?  its not like the girls at alabama were blatantly racist about this.  she got dropped near the very end, they gave her a chance, maybe she was annoying or weird or wouldnt have fit in with the sorority. nobody knows the whole story so everyone stop talking about it.

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  38. Fuckthesouth?Fuckyall. says:

    I understand that what happened at The University of Alabama was racist and wrong, but I am a little confused by the overt hostility in the post (and a lot of the comments) directed at the entire school and to the south as a whole. As a student and sorority member of another SEC school, I can say with honesty that we too have had our problems with race and alumni relations, but things are getting better and more and more African American women are being excepted into traditionally all white sororities on our campus. Racism exists everywhere, and always condemning the South as stupid and ignorant and racist does nothing to help race relations ANYWHERE.
    While visiting a friend in New York City last summer I was asked by one of her “friends” whether or not I hated black people (because everyone from Mississippi hates black people apparently). I told her that I didn’t hate black people at all-just Yankees.
    So fuck yall.

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  39. SpanishBetch says:

    I can’t speak for Bama students really, but to those who think that racism “isn’t really happening” anymore in the South are in FUCKING DENIAL. Not just to blacks, but to ANYONE who isn’t like them. I am latin and was born and raised in Miami and moved to New Orleans for college. Met a bro from Ole Miss who took me to a baseball game and I literally called my mom in TEARS because I had never experienced being judged so hard based on how I looked (bc no one really gave a shit enough to acknowledge me) and that’s what it was like among a small group of people, I can’t imagine how it must feel to be excluded in such a way during RUSH. I mean really, I have to side with the betches on this one. It is fucking IGNORANT to think that racism isn’t alive and well in the south, and yes, it does go both ways, but to deny it in it’s entirety is fucking stupid. Not all southerners are racist don’t get me wrong, but it is real and it does exist. If you’ve never walked into any type of Ole Miss game wearing anything other than a fugly lily pulitzer satin dress, and didn’t put hot rollers in your hair the night before,you’re fucked. And to the white girls who think that they have it so bad when they walk past a black sorority GET OVER IT, you will NEVER know what it’s like to be in that situation, you’ll be ok when you go to sit with your friends on pink shirt Wednesday.

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  40. This is why I live in New York says:

    Well done, betches. This article was literally perfect, talking shit about things that deserve to be talked shit about.

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  41. Uneducated says:

    Okay doll, here’s the thing:

    The Confederate States of America were fighting for state’s rights, not for using harsh labor only. The main issues were high taxes placed on certain items and goods from other countries, and no tax placed on products from up North. Basically the government said “You can’t buy this product for $30 from England, but you can buy this product from New England for $5, even though New England is desperately hoping to crush your economy.” Which is proper bullshit.
    And secondly, I hope you realize the Union wasn’t even for freeing the slaves. Hell they had their own, and when the North got rid of their black slaves and throwing them out into the white man’s world, did they help them? Hell no. They began using “wage slaves”, paying immigrants around possibly a nickel every couple of days and putting them into unsafe working conditions. And while they were getting paid (somewhat) were they accepted? No, doll. They were put down way worse than slaves ever were. Did you not learn that house slaves were “better” than poor whites in the South, and the poor whites had to move off of the road and out of the way if a black house slave were to come around them?
    Oh and another point, Abraham Lincoln, the North’s most esteemed historical figure, didn’t really care about the slaves. He wanted to ship them all back to Africa and Barbados, where their own people were capturing them and selling them to other countries. The only reason that hadn’t happened was because it wasn’t feasible.

    In case you might have been wondering, I’m in ninth grade, and although everyone in the south is an “ignorant hick”, I’m taking college classes. I’ll have finished my major in law and my minor in psychology by the time I’m 18.  How amusing is it that an “ignorant southern racist hick” has made the majority of all the arguments moot?

    It’s honestly sickening how the supposedly cultured, enlightened, better Northern people on this article are the ones being so rude.

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